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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Dec 17, 2010 7:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's gone...

Hey FB, " folks here chose not to ignore it but instead tried to have him banned and his posts removed, based simply on the fact that they did not like what he posted. and based on the posts I have seen so far, most others here are applauding, or at least accepting of that. That is scary stuff there....."

Free Speech vs Hate Mongering has always been a thorny conundrum with me.

It's like taking a relaxing stroll through your favourite park and having someone handing out pamphlets or preaching from a soapbox, it can diminish or even destroy that feeling of reverie at the time, but you can move on and it's likely they won't be there next time - and you can appreciate the fact that one can have that freedom to speak one's mind. Unlike the Hate Mongerer that spray paints their message across park benches, sidewalks and rock formations - disturbing AND it is hard to ignore. You feel your public 'comfort space' has been violated and you want it removed. You cannot have that same 'walk through the park' with its ensuing 'good feelings' because you are constantly being faced with disturbing, angry messages. It's depressing to have to avert your eyes and attention away from what you hold dear and have grown to accept as a sanctuary of sorts. You want your walk through the park to return to being rejuvenating and inspiring with sights and signs of life and fresh new growth - not destruction and defacement. To me, that is one difference between free speech and hate mongering in a public space.

This place was (and often, still is) this lucky find - a sanctuary from the daily news and events . . . my walk in the park, if you will.

The Troll in question here seems to choose the moniker, method and message of the destructive one's MO alluded to above. Good people here have tried discourse, sincere efforts to engage our 'friend' in civil discussions, only to be rebuked in the most offensive and juvenile tirades that show no attempts at discourse. To me, this is hardly a free speech situation . . . and, of course, you are free to disagree with any thing or all that i've said.


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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 17, 2010 8:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's gone...

Well, DP, I couldn't have said it better myself--and as is obvious, I love kicking this crap around.

Have a great Holiday season, whatever form it takes, and here's to hoping few things come along that disrupt that experience for you, ya know? Just like you, and so many others, it came down to how much what was happening so negatively impacted what I have come to view as my own little version of a "walk in the park", in part cause I can't do as much of that as I used to...this is a special place to me, and it's not that I want it all my own way, but the terms are the terms...

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Dec 17, 2010 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's gone...

Hey Dr. Tell, thanks and wishing the same for you and yours this season. May your health issues become more favourable to your needs so that life may proceed without those painful 'distractions' - i feel your pain brother.

It has been 'visiting' with folks like you, vapors, LiA, Althea Rose, BD, SDH, Rob, Cliff, and others that has made this little 'walk in the park' an enjoyable retreat. I appreciate the many levels of enthusiasm and endearments that this forum brings to such a long-time fascination of mine. Visiting the archives has been a treat to have such a wealth at one's fingertips - my ears have been pleased and my soul has been rejuvenated more than a few times. As in currently thoroughly enjoying the latest CM remaster of Champaign-Urbana 2-22-73, a complete and clean version of a much cherished old reel and frequently played in the car cassette. It's like visiting an old friend you haven't seen for years and all of the memories and good feelings return, yet with this new clarity, there is an added depth and new appreciation. And with this forum, the story often unfolds further. The diversity of tastes, experiences and collected knowledge with regards to years, eras, tours, keyboard players, etc. - all adds to the fascination. The friendly banter alongside of the knowledgeable and thoroughly researched monographs as well as Cliff's spot-on videos, these are the new, and sometimes exciting things that one notices on this, now regular, walk through the park.

Looking back, I find it interesting that my first review and post were about this same nefarious scribbler, what a waste of time, emotion and energy, when I could have been discussing something along the lines of the aesthetics of Keith on piano vs those of Brent or Vince with the fervent fans of the 80's and 90's.